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timehasa_wayThis is adorable. Once again, haters to the left.
I have this theory...that women are insane.
Okay, not really. Well, maybe.
Here's the thing. There's obviously been an uproar in fandom over the engagement/marriage thing. Now, I agree that it's out of line and childish. But I disagree that it's only made this fandom terrible, and that this fandom in particular is batshit. Because, if you've ever been in any kind of fandom before, you know that there is batshit in every fandom. I've said it a million times, but this fandom is still awesome. It's just got its allotted share of crazies.
I'm used to stuff like this happening, as sad as that is. The same thing happened in the Backstreet Boys fandom when they started getting engaged/married. There was epic hate for women that the fans obviously didn't even know, screaming, crying, anger, depression, threats. You name it, it happened. I've never understood it, and, really, it's not something you should be used to. But I wasn't exactly surprised when it happened in the Supernatural fandom. And yes, slash existed at that time in the BSB fandom, too, so this reaction isn't really enhanced by J2.
I just have to wonder, what is it that makes women do this crazy shit? Because, let's face it, you never see men obsess over hot female celebrities to the point where they wish ill on their boyfriends/husbands. Of course, you have the occasional psychopath, like the guy who shot the President to impress Jodie Foster. But those are rarities among men. I mean, I'd hate to say it, but women in fandom (any fandom) kind of make a case for the old idea doctors had back in the day that women were just hysterical basket cases. That's not to say all women in fandom are like that, but there's always a good portion of them around. And it's been going on for ages now. Women went crazy when they found out John Lennon was engaged. I mean, this is old.
It all just makes me wonder. What started all this? Why do women overreact and get so dramatic when it comes to male celebrities? Also, do they do it just because that's the reaction that's encouraged now? Brian Littrell of BSB was by far my favorite at the time of his engagement/marriage. When he got married, it was on the news, and my grandmother woke me up just to tell me. She stood back and had this air of, "...Well?" As if I was supposed to just flip the hell out. As if it was expected. People I talked to after she told me, whether family or friends, would say, "You know Brian got married, right??" And then they'd do the same thing. Sit back and look at me, as if expecting some sort of shitstorm. I just kept thinking, "What do they expect me to do?"
But an overly immature reaction was what they expected. Because other women in my family and some of my female friends would've reacted that way and did react that way with their favorite male celebrities. It's almost treated like the norm. Why is that?
I've never understood this. I still don't understand it now, with Jared and Jensen getting engaged and married. I don't understand the vicious hate for women the fans don't even know, to the point where fans can't even stand to hear their names mentioned (uh, that's pretty bad for your health). I just...don't understand any of it, really. Hell, I write J2, and I think they make for an awesome slashy couple. While I wouldn't be surprised if they ever ended up as one, and I certainly wouldn't mind it, I'm willing to accept that they're perfectly straight and are getting happily married. Because I don't know them. And they certainly look happy enough. But of course those women won't accept that. They'll say that the boys look miserable, that the girls are evil, and there's a new thing now in which the video I posted up above is part of the whole cover up of J2's gayness. Yep, there's apparently no point to that adorable video aside from them "proving" that they're straight. Because, you know, when two actors get engaged, it's obvious that no interviewer would ever take the opportunity to ask them about it and post a video online. That's balderdash!
...I kind of just wanted to say "balderdash."
Anyway, I'm just curious to know what makes women this way. I'm curious about what goes on in their brains and how much of it is encouraged by people they know and society in general. I'm just curious, because it's obviously a recurring theme. Thoughts?
I have this theory...that women are insane.
Okay, not really. Well, maybe.
Here's the thing. There's obviously been an uproar in fandom over the engagement/marriage thing. Now, I agree that it's out of line and childish. But I disagree that it's only made this fandom terrible, and that this fandom in particular is batshit. Because, if you've ever been in any kind of fandom before, you know that there is batshit in every fandom. I've said it a million times, but this fandom is still awesome. It's just got its allotted share of crazies.
I'm used to stuff like this happening, as sad as that is. The same thing happened in the Backstreet Boys fandom when they started getting engaged/married. There was epic hate for women that the fans obviously didn't even know, screaming, crying, anger, depression, threats. You name it, it happened. I've never understood it, and, really, it's not something you should be used to. But I wasn't exactly surprised when it happened in the Supernatural fandom. And yes, slash existed at that time in the BSB fandom, too, so this reaction isn't really enhanced by J2.
I just have to wonder, what is it that makes women do this crazy shit? Because, let's face it, you never see men obsess over hot female celebrities to the point where they wish ill on their boyfriends/husbands. Of course, you have the occasional psychopath, like the guy who shot the President to impress Jodie Foster. But those are rarities among men. I mean, I'd hate to say it, but women in fandom (any fandom) kind of make a case for the old idea doctors had back in the day that women were just hysterical basket cases. That's not to say all women in fandom are like that, but there's always a good portion of them around. And it's been going on for ages now. Women went crazy when they found out John Lennon was engaged. I mean, this is old.
It all just makes me wonder. What started all this? Why do women overreact and get so dramatic when it comes to male celebrities? Also, do they do it just because that's the reaction that's encouraged now? Brian Littrell of BSB was by far my favorite at the time of his engagement/marriage. When he got married, it was on the news, and my grandmother woke me up just to tell me. She stood back and had this air of, "...Well?" As if I was supposed to just flip the hell out. As if it was expected. People I talked to after she told me, whether family or friends, would say, "You know Brian got married, right??" And then they'd do the same thing. Sit back and look at me, as if expecting some sort of shitstorm. I just kept thinking, "What do they expect me to do?"
But an overly immature reaction was what they expected. Because other women in my family and some of my female friends would've reacted that way and did react that way with their favorite male celebrities. It's almost treated like the norm. Why is that?
I've never understood this. I still don't understand it now, with Jared and Jensen getting engaged and married. I don't understand the vicious hate for women the fans don't even know, to the point where fans can't even stand to hear their names mentioned (uh, that's pretty bad for your health). I just...don't understand any of it, really. Hell, I write J2, and I think they make for an awesome slashy couple. While I wouldn't be surprised if they ever ended up as one, and I certainly wouldn't mind it, I'm willing to accept that they're perfectly straight and are getting happily married. Because I don't know them. And they certainly look happy enough. But of course those women won't accept that. They'll say that the boys look miserable, that the girls are evil, and there's a new thing now in which the video I posted up above is part of the whole cover up of J2's gayness. Yep, there's apparently no point to that adorable video aside from them "proving" that they're straight. Because, you know, when two actors get engaged, it's obvious that no interviewer would ever take the opportunity to ask them about it and post a video online. That's balderdash!
...I kind of just wanted to say "balderdash."
Anyway, I'm just curious to know what makes women this way. I'm curious about what goes on in their brains and how much of it is encouraged by people they know and society in general. I'm just curious, because it's obviously a recurring theme. Thoughts?
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Date: 2010-03-05 09:37 pm (UTC)There were a couple of those fans, like there are at cons, but for the most part it was fun times. But it's those extreme fans that I don't get. And beyond that, it's really more the negative reactions that I don't get. I guess because it seems more of a waste and just more detrimental to your own health to spend so much time and energy hating people who are so far removed from you. It's kind of bizarre, and it's the complete opposite of "innocent until proven guilty." It's weird to see people just looking for something to hate, even if the people they're hating on have given them no reason to do so.
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Date: 2010-03-05 10:16 pm (UTC)I can understand the nervousness you are talking about when meeting a celeb just cuz sometimes they really are awe-inspiring. But for me that's fleeting. The celebrities I have met, and there have only been a few by chance, mostly just made me feel awkward for a second and then I was just like "Dude, what's up?" and they were cool.
Then again, I can squee all day online about the hotness of hotass Jensen and be filled with lust and I might sound like a crazy person too!
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Date: 2010-03-05 11:11 pm (UTC)